Things are heating up in the podcasting world! Following a viral exchange between Marc Lamont Hill and QueenzFlip on the Joe Budden Podcast (JBP), the hosts of the Native Land Podcast decided to weigh in. Their commentary, however, didn’t sit well with Joe Budden himself, who has now fired back, accusing them of hypocrisy and disrespect.
Native Land Podcast Weighs In
The Native Land Podcast, hosted by Angela Rye, Tiffany Cross, Andrew Gillum, and Bakari Sellers, dedicated an episode titled “Joe Budden’s Podcast and the Dumbing Down of America” to dissecting the JBP conversation. While Sellers and Gillum acknowledged the value of exposing Marc Lamont Hill’s perspective to a wider audience, Rye expressed a desire for Hill to engage with peers who are more ‘compassionate and eager to learn.’
The hosts discussed the rise of anti-intellectualism and how conversations like the one on JBP fit into that narrative. Their critique, particularly the episode’s title and the implication that some participants weren’t intellectual peers, struck a nerve with Budden and his co-hosts.
Budden’s Defense and Accusations
On a recent episode of his own podcast, Joe Budden took offense to the sentiment that he or his co-hosts don’t ‘love Marc.’ He argued that in intellectual and political spaces, there’s a tendency to play victim or aggressor, and that the Native Land hosts were dismissing others while claiming to be pro-Black. ‘We/I don’t love Marc,’ Budden stated, taking issue with the framing.
Co-host Ish echoed this sentiment, likening the Native Land Podcast’s dismissal of QueenzFlip’s opinions to historical ways white individuals have dismissed Black communities’ thoughts. Parks Vallely added that not watching the podcast or citing sources is a major red flag for anyone claiming intellectual status, especially when forming deep opinions based on short clips.
The Issue of Name-Dropping
Budden’s primary frustration seemed to stem from the use of his name in the episode title, especially since he claimed not to be familiar with the Native Land Podcast’s regular content. ‘Make your point without Joe Budden’s name in it,’ he demanded. He emphasized that he doesn’t engage with content from people he’s never met or doesn’t know, finding it ‘in bad taste.’
He also defended his platform’s approach, highlighting that he allows his audience to see his and his co-hosts’ real-time growth, shortcomings, and journey toward redemption. Budden contrasted this with what he perceived as an attempt by the Native Land hosts to present themselves as intellectually perfect, questioning their authority to categorize others.
A Wave of Debate
This clapback has ignited another round of discussions online. Some agree with Budden, pointing out perceived hypocrisy in the Native Land Podcast’s commentary. Others feel the hosts of Native Land didn’t overstep their bounds. The debate highlights the ongoing tension between different platforms and personalities within Black media and intellectual discourse.
What do you think about Joe Budden’s response to the Native Land Podcast? Who do you agree with? Share your thoughts in the comments below!
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