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Robert Fitzgerald Diggs, better known as RZA, the mastermind behind the iconic Wu-Tang Clan, recently joined Jason Lee on ‘The Jason Lee Show’ to share insights into his multifaceted career. From the foundational days of Wu-Tang to his ventures in filmmaking and his personal journey, RZA offered a candid look at his evolution as an artist and entrepreneur.

Building a Legacy: Wu-Tang Clan and Staten Island

RZA delved into the intentionality behind building Wu-Tang Clan, discussing the unique slang, swagger, and flavor of Hip-Hop they brought to the mainstream. He reminisced about the artists from Staten Island who paved the way, including Force MCs (later Force MDs), The UMCs, Shyheim “The Rugged Child,” and Milk D, acknowledging their contributions before Wu-Tang put Staten Island, or Shaolin, on the map. He also paid homage to Hip-Hop pioneers like The Cold Crush Brothers and Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five.

Reflecting on his early life, RZA shared his philosophy on creating Wu-Tang and spoke about learning from Hip-Hop heroes like Prince Rakeem. He also touched upon his past struggles with street crime, describing it as trying to be an entrepreneur with the “wrong product.” This led to a pivotal moment in his early twenties when he faced attempted murder charges. Ultimately acquitted, RZA credits his mother’s disappointment and advice for inspiring him to seek a “second chance” and “zig-zag” back in the right direction. This led to sobriety and a renewed focus on music, with many of the beats from that period forming the basis of the seminal album, ’36 Chambers.’

Aggression, Cohesion, and Hip-Hop’s Evolution

When discussing Wu-Tang’s signature sound – characterized by aggression, loud fashion, and strong cohesion on tracks like “C.R.E.A.M.” and “Wu-Tang Clan Ain’t Nuthing Ta F’ Wit” – RZA suggested that while some may have feared them, their peers often appreciated the raw energy. He believes this strength was an integral part of Hip-Hop’s appeal. RZA also highlighted the transformative impact of Method Man and Mary J. Blige’s Grammy-winning collaboration, “I’ll Be There For You / You’re All I Need To Get By,” noting its role in bridging Hip-Hop and R&B.

The conversation then shifted to RZA’s work in film, particularly his collaboration with Quentin Tarantino on ‘Kill Bill.’ RZA shared how their friendship grew from a shared passion for movies, leading to his role as composer and orchestrator. He also discussed his latest directorial project, ‘One Spoon of Chocolate,’ an action-thriller starring Shameik Moore, Blair Underwood, Paris Jackson, and RJ Cyler, which explores themes of redemption and fighting back against corruption.

Reflections on ODB, Rap Beefs, and Legacy

RZA spoke fondly of his late cousin and Wu-Tang groupmate, Ol’ Dirty Bastard (ODB), sharing childhood memories and acknowledging the spiritual and mental presence ODB maintains. He also mentioned including ODB’s son, Young Dirty Bastard (YDB), in his new film and even featuring one of ODB’s songs. RZA also reflected on his older cousin, GZA, calling him “the light” for the group.

Addressing the current landscape of rap beefs, RZA views competition as a vital sport within Hip-Hop that can push artists and the genre forward. However, he expressed a nuanced view on the recent Drake and Kendrick Lamar feud, describing its outcome as “gray.” He explained that without knowing the artists personally, it’s difficult to discern what’s real versus fabricated in their lyrics, leading to an “ugly” space reminiscent of the Tupac and Notorious B.I.G. era.

Towards the end of the interview, RZA touched upon Wu-Tang Clan’s upcoming ‘Wu-Tang Forever: The Final Chamber’ tour and their induction into the 2026 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. He also shared his honor at Rihanna and A$AP Rocky naming their son RZA Athelston Mayers, seeing it as a sign of respect and blessing. The interview concluded with RZA playing ‘Name Drop,’ reminiscing about figures like Nas, Damon Dash, Kanye West, and Oliver “Power” Grant.